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The 4RR's sound is intoxicating. 🤤
I love my Ninja400's song at full throttle but there's nothing like the sound of an inline 4 banger on the threshold of redline. 🤪

Nice videos. 👍I'm still in shock I'm actually getting one. 🙂
 

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Wow those indicated speeds are way over even what GearingCommander shows, and that was already crazy long. That would put top of 6th at ~180 mph (indicated), that's wholly unnecessary gearing ... that's 4 gears and 2 overdrives, literally. You'll be able to ride this bike without ever shifting past 2nd gear. This is longer gearing than my 95hp CBR650R. Is 14/48 -> 13/51 even possible?

If any of you missed it, the zx4rr has the exact same Ninja 400's transmission ratios. Which is an odd decision imho.
 

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Wow those indicated speeds are way over even what GearingCommander shows, and that was already crazy long. That would put top of 6th at ~180 mph (indicated), that's wholly unnecessary gearing ... that's 4 gears and 2 overdrives, literally. You'll be able to ride this bike without ever shifting past 2nd gear. This is longer gearing than my 95hp CBR650R. Is 14/48 -> 13/51 even possible?

If any of you missed it, the zx4rr has the exact same Ninja 400's transmission ratios. Which is an odd decision imho.
Well.. hopefully highway travel is comfy
 

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I did have some hopes I could up to third in the twesties. But in 2nd he got to ~138km/h (85mph) right under 15k rpm. Then he shifted into third, landed at 13.5K RPM at 156km/h (96mph). Yeah I would never be able to get to third gear in the twesties.
 

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Yeah I can see a gearing change coming for the track to get full use of the transmission. 🤷🏼‍♂️😕
Again we will have to wait for the bike to get here to really see if the gearing is too long. 🫤
 

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If we use the 3rd gear 193 kph figure, then in mph it's 66 / 94 / 120 / 145 / 168 / 187. For comparison, the Ninja 650 is 47 / 66 / 85 / 102 / 118 / 133, and a Ninja 400 is an almost identical 47 / 67 / 85 / 103 / 120 / 133. The zx4rr can indicate faster in 3rd than the Ninja 650 can in 5th ... (are they planning on offering a factory supercharger? lol.)

Let's just get all the number out, zx6r is 74 / 95 / 113 / 131 / 148 / 161. And a zx6r with -1/+1 sprockets is 67 / 87 / 103 / 120 / 135 / 147. Very interesting, that.

CBR650R is 63 / 82 / 102 / 124 / 141 / 159.

If you wanted to alter a zx4r to Ninja 400/650 numbers, you would need 13/63 sprockets.
 

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Hopefully that is a case of a horribly optimistic speedo, 1-4 should be short, 5 and 6 should be taller gears.
Gearing commander shows 6912 RPM in 6th gear at 70 mph.

Assuming stock gearing, 160/60 tire, and 16,000 RPM, also assuming the ratios specified in the manual are accurate:

1st gear: 57.5 MPH
2nd gear: 82 MPH
3rd gear: 104 MPH
4th gear: 126 MPH
5th gear: 146 MPH
6th gear: 162 MPH

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to be screaming down the highway at 9,000 RPM+ in 6th gear, but those first few gears seem a little tall.. maybe that could be an opportunity for the aftermarket? Shorter transmission gears? I wonder if they geared it so tall because of the RPM limited models.
 

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"Top Speed" video but I didn't see over 195 kph indicated just after 3:00

In some other video, an author stated his friend reached 230 kph (143 mph indicated) @ 87 kg body. Obviously the speedo is reading high. We need KPH vs GPS from one of these PH guys.

I hunted down zx6r numbers, max 162 indicated (same as GC) but 65=60 gps (per YT video), so reality = 149.5 mph top of 6th. Assuming at least the same error for zx4r then 143 = 132 mph at best presumably.

Also, did you notice that when riders shift into 5th at high speed, that's it ... the bike is done accelerating.

 

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"Top Speed" video but I didn't see over 195 kph indicated just after 3:00

In some other video, an author stated his friend reached 230 kph (143 mph indicated) @ 87 kg body. Obviously the speedo is reading high. We need KPH vs GPS from one of these PH guys.

I hunted down zx6r numbers, max 162 indicated (same as GC) but 65=60 gps (per YT video), so reality = 149.5 mph top of 6th. Assuming at least the same error for zx4r then 143 = 132 mph at best presumably.

Also, did you notice that when riders shift into 5th at high speed, that's it ... the bike is done accelerating.

The sound of this thing in the tunnel is good for the soul
 
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